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[Oct. 18th, 2005|09:36 am]
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1,072.

I have to wonder whether Cal would actually act like that, but damn the editing, full speed ahead.

I consider this a sort of warm-up run before NaNoWriMo. Since this originally started as a WriMo novel, I'm more or less using the same style to write it now as I was when I first started.

Last night wasn't much for relaxation - worked late, then came home and surfed the internet a bit, went out to dinner, watched one episode of GitS:SAC, and then Keith Olbermann. (Oh, and wrote two livejournal entries.) I also finished the second book of D.N.Angel, which is getting a bit screwy... but what would you expect from a shoujo manga based around love pretzels, feathers, and multiple personality disorder?

I wonder if I ought to quit working on Familiar a few days/a week in advance and start outlining on Sacrifice. Right now I've got vague ideas for the first few scenes, the general gist behind one main character, and a few rules for the world. (Sacrifice is pure fantasy, not modern fantasy as Familiar was.) I should probably establish a little more, but heck, Familiar started the same way. Of course, I also didn't win NaNo last year.

Writer's Note: Cal was introduced on a lark when I thought "hey! I should have another main character!" It's probably good, overall, since he has a better emotional investment in what's going on, while Dana is more of a reactionary character. One thing I need to do in editing is draw Dana closer in and establish why she hasn't run off, yet. Mm... soul searching.
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[User Picture]From: ketsugami
2005-10-18 05:02 pm (UTC)
I wonder if I ought to quit working on Familiar a few days/a week in advance and start outlining on Sacrifice.

This is a bit off-topic, but have you considered shelving Sacrifice temporarily and just working on Familiar? It sounds like you're on a roll, and personally I always hate to interuppt good momentum. It'd be a shame to do that just because of NaNo rules; honestly, producing a good finished product is more important.

I'm doing the same thing, basically -- I plan to write 50k during NaNo, but it's going to be words 20,000 through 70,000 or so. Which is technically against the rules but I don't care...

If you're really psyched for Sacrifice, of course, then go for it. ^_^
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[User Picture]From: froborr
2005-10-18 05:55 pm (UTC)
Same here: WNSO is going to incorporate a lot of this. As long as I write 50,000 original words of it during the month of November, I have no qualms about using old writing as well. To paraphrase the almighty Ben Mo, rule are for loser.
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[User Picture]From: siliconrose
2005-10-18 07:17 pm (UTC)
I just noticed a lot of people in the forums who seemed die hard against it, so...

One other thing that worries me is that the first draft of Familiar is not going to be 50,000 more words long, so if I count Familiar, I'm going to have to switch gears partway through the month.
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[User Picture]From: froborr
2005-10-18 07:20 pm (UTC)
In response to the former: so what? Who says they even have to know, or that their opinions matter even if they do? They're probably not even real people, anyway... everyone knows there are only 12 real people on the Internet. All the rest are bots escaped from FPS games and chatrooms.

The latter is more of a problem, if it's a problem. Up to you, really.
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[User Picture]From: siliconrose
2005-10-18 07:35 pm (UTC)
One other possibility is that I don't stop work on Familiar, but use my free time to do basic outlining on Sacrifice, so I can hit the ground running.

I'll probably do that.
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[User Picture]From: froborr
2005-10-18 05:59 pm (UTC)
Aren't *all* shoujo manga based around feathers?

Good job on Cal -- he felt like he belonged there from the start. Frankly, he's also the much more likeable character. Not that being unlikeable is necessarily a bad trait, even in a main character -- I'm listening to the NGE soundtrack right now, and there's not a likeable character in the entire show. Well, maybe Maya, Fuyutski, or Yui, but they're all pretty minor.
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[User Picture]From: froborr
2005-10-18 06:00 pm (UTC)
How can something be based *around* something else, anyway? /grammar nazi
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[User Picture]From: siliconrose
2005-10-18 07:32 pm (UTC)
Take a ball, cover it in clay. The clay is based around the ball.

No, really! I really mean it... honest...

No, actually, I know, sometimes my grammar bites. And I qualify too many of my statements.
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[User Picture]From: siliconrose
2005-10-18 07:28 pm (UTC)
Stupid mouse, deleting my post.

Anyways.

I think that part of the reason he's more likeable is, unfortunately, because he's not as human a character. Dana wears her flaws on her shoulder, and she's not aware of most of them, which is common for humans. Cal just does the right thing more often, more easily, than she does. I'm actually quite worried that he's going to turn into a Gary Stu, which is amusing, since part of the reason why Dana is so flawed is to avoid her being a Mary Sue. I think I might have handicapped her ability to influence the plot too much, and I'm going to have to fix the balance as I write and edit. The flaws are going to more or less stay, though (barring criticism that identifies it as a serious problem).

(BTW, in the context of this post I mean Mary Sue/Gary Stu as an unreasonably idealized character who is liked by everyone, good at everything, always makes the right decisions even if they're painful, etc, etc.)
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[User Picture]From: froborr
2005-10-18 07:33 pm (UTC)
Well, the easiest way to prevent him from becoming a Gary Stu would be to give him a savior complex: have him make the wrong decision because he's too eager to/convinced he can save everybody. Or just make him suffer for doing the right thing, as you've started to do already with what I've seen. I don't think anybody'd call Vash the Stampede or Harry Potter a Gary Stu.
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[User Picture]From: siliconrose
2005-10-18 07:36 pm (UTC)
Vash the Stampede... definitely no. Harry Potter... well... honestly, at least from the first books, he was. He's gotten much better, though.
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[User Picture]From: froborr
2005-10-18 08:11 pm (UTC)
Well, yeah, in the first book. By the second, the pattern of "people like him to his face, but are willing to take any excuse to hate him" was well-established. And he's a good example of a savior complex.
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[User Picture]From: siliconrose
2005-10-19 03:03 pm (UTC)
I felt he was unrealistically nice until the fifth book, but perhaps that's my cynicism showing.
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